Monday, 21 July 2014
Andrew Stephens
From the Facebook pages come the thoughts of Chairman Stephens on :-
<http://wearehomogeneous.org/2014/07/03/the-history-of-stophaus/>
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The STOPhaus Movement gained notoriety during the, then largest DDoS attack in recorded history, against anti-spam outfit Spamhaus. The 300gps attack inundated Spamhaus’ removal servers for 5 days before they recruited an American firm by the name of Cloudflare to mitigate the attack. After another 3 days of unsuccessful attempts to mitigate the attack, Cloudflare put out a press release that startled the world entitled, “The DDoS that Almost Broke The Internet”. This press release was picked up by Nicole Perlroth of the New York Times and reprinted in almost every tech column across the globe. The actors behind the attack were mysteriously known as a collective called STOPhaus. What was unknown is what STOPhaus is and what led up to the attack that was so abusively misreported.
In 2009 I operated a small IT and Web Design firm in Cincinnati, OH called IBT, Inc. or Integrated Business Technologies. During it’s startup phase I hired a systems administrator from Craigslist named Donald D.. This admin was more than adequate to operate our network, but came from a business that used “spam” as a marketing tool. He was the SysAdmin for a job-board and his former employer wanted him to send out email to the users that submitted resumes to the job board. I didn’t see an issue with that, but I was also not an expert in spam, other than that I knew I didn’t like it. I sure didn’t think we were spamming and we didn’t have complainers saying we were either, until Spamhaus complained very publicly that is.
We became close acquaintances until one day it seems that I found myself on a list ran by an international private organization named Spamhaus, that stated I was a “spam supporter” because Don setup this mailing system using one of the company’s ns records. The domain registration was not private because I, as the company rep, had no idea that we were doing something that was frowned upon and had not received “digital frowns” aka “complaints”. In a layman’s eyes, it appeared that we were marketing to opt-in recipients collected through authentic means and in 2009 I was still getting my feet wet in email marketing, so the fine lines between spam and commercial email had not been established.
The accusations in this ROKSO file were fictitious, egregious, libelous, and provoking and I was pretty easily provoked at the time. So, I went on to a USENET group called N.A.N.A.E. to find the CEO of this abusive DNSBL (blacklist) operator, Stephen John Linford, as he founded his efforts on this group and his support system is active there. I was quickly attacked and called vicious names as were my family and friends and I didn’t take kindly to such activities, so I responded with a mass media campaign against this type of behavior.
During this media campaign Spamhaus used their support system to knock down blogs hosted on WordPress, Blogger, and Webs. They had Gmail accounts removed, over 100 virtual servers were terminated, a dozen or more dedicated servers were terminated with no warning or explanation other than, “because you are on the Spamhaus list”, and several hundred domains were rendered useless by underhanded tactics of getting a registrar to suspend a domain name… waiting on it to be transferred to a new registrar (by coercion)…and then having the new registrar do the same so the ICANN waiting period would prevent material from being hosted on the domain. This is only one of many attacks Spamhaus initiated against our media sites, which were merely hosted to combat the libel Spamhaus was publishing.
This went on for a number of years before we finally started The STOPhaus Movement in Nov. of 2011, which was an effort to make the abusers see their abuse via mimicking them. Spamhaus did not like this much and started attacking the hosts for STOPhaus materials until we finally located Sven Olaf Kamphuis of Cyberbunker o n the Spamhaus ROKSO list. Yes, Spamhaus was our referral to Cyberbunker. Sven told us, “If it is not illegal, we will host it”. We were ecstatic to find someone that believed in free media, but the ecstasy would be short-lived, as Spamhaus attacked Cyberbunker’s upstream continuously, trying to force them to shut down the STOPhaus content, and they refused…but Steve Linford and his band of extortionists were not going to stop harassing our ISPs until they were able to stop the media campaign against them. That is, until their actions made headline news across the globe and they were put under a microscope and didn’t have a lot of choice other than to back off.
In March of 2013 a group was formed with the intent to shut down Spamhaus. This group had no name, only met on IRC, Jabber, and Skype. The group included ISPs and domain registrars from 5 continents and over a dozen countries…all with one goal…stop DNSBL Censorship. One day an attack was begun against Spamhaus’ by a member of the group and the group supported the attacker in his efforts to “make a statement”. This was not an anonymous attack by criminals with motives of financial gain, it was a protest by innocent civilians who were being attacked in the shadows by a private censorship component, complete with propaganda, and demands.
When it became international news we knew we had to take credit for it or our goals would never be released and the attack would be in vain, so we had to find a spokesman and a name for the group. Sven had already done such things for Cyberbunker, so he was perfect and volunteered to be the public relations coordinator and the name “STOPhaus” was already being used to combat such things. So we took the name TSM or The STOPhaus Movement and Sven contacted the media for interviews. This put the heat on Sven and we knew that he would eventually be persecuted for being the messenger, but he’s a team player and was willing to be self-sacrificial for the good of the internet community as a whole…like he’s always done.
Little did we know that the media would then make it about a scuffle between Cyberbunker and Spamhaus. That was actually a great unexpected twist to minimize the movement, but ultimately a failure because a movement can’t be silenced. The actors behind the Spamhaus attack were making a global point, that DNSBLs who use their influence to censor media or to profit are not doing a public service, but rather working on someone’s agenda and censoring media in the process. In Spamhaus’ case, the agenda belongs to large media Corps looking to control opinion, such as Google and Email Service Providers (see MAAWG). Other DNSBLs may have other agendas, but the fact that private DNSBLs have enough influence to cause the censorship of media and have the agenda of manipulating public opinion is quite enough to get our attention.
The STOPhaus Movement has several accounts, including a twitter account, several FB groups, and their own IRC channel but no individual administers any of them. The groups have dynamic administration teams and even the domains such as stophaus.com and stopspamhaus.com are controlled by several entities in multiple countries. STOPhaus is merely a voice for those that choose to note security flaws in the internet that affect a human’s ability to publish opinion. If those flaws are tied into spam-fighting then they need to be fixed so that spam can be fought without private blacklists and ISPs working cooperatively or by coercion to eliminate opinions they find unsettling.
The STOPhaus attack has proven that Spamhaus is using AMERICAN PUBLIC SERVANTS to mitigate attacks vicariously through Cloudflare, that Cloudflare is using American Law Enforcement to mitigate DDoS attacks that they are being paid to mitigate themselves, and that DNSBLs have far too much influence on internet media to remain unregulated by democratically elected global authorities. The STOPhaus attack readdressed a major flaw in the entire internet protocol, made the internet community aware of DNSBL coercion, and brought attention to DoS attacks, conducted by Spamhaus in the shadows for a decade. As long as private business are allowed to use capitalism to control media, the internet will always be a propaganda machine instead of an information superhighway. Sign The Petition to STOP SPAMHAUS!
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So here we have Andrew Stephens admitting that he was part of The Stophaus Movement that was responsible for a DDOS on Spamhaus.
Friday, 2 August 2013
Andrew Jacob Stephens keeps ...........
......some very strange company
In a rather unique question and answer session in NANAE, Luciano Rossini of Spamhaus
gives an update on Andrew Stephens latest activities.
From <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=137543801400>
Note date of this post is July 23rd, 2013.
<Quote>
In article <slrnkusskf.2j4.angel+news@pearlgates.net>, Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> wrote: > what is currently keeping his record active? Currently just Stephens' dealings with known dedicated cybercrime hosters (Yuri 2x4, WebExxpurts/turbovps, etc). It is often amazing to find how closely connected Stephens is to known Russian, Ukrainian and Estonian crime operations whose businesses are 'bp hosting' for criminals running banking trojans and a large amount of the cybercrime that specifically targets the EU and US public. He is a small fry fish in that sea but the communications we monitor connect Stephens with a lot of ongoing bad stuff by guys high on our (and LE) list. Also until some months ago Stephens was still distributing the 'DP Mailer' spamware, although it's hard to imagine anyone with a functioning brain purchasing that. Were we to see those connections drop off our team would have no objection at all to removing Stephens as we can easily put him straight back on if he gets involved in spamming again. -- Luciano Rossini The Spamhaus Project http://www.spamhaus.org
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Although participating in the thread, neither Andrew and/or Ragnar directly answered
or disputed any facts given by any Spamhaus representative.
Using his often used trick of ignoring any difficult facts, he then waits for a week
or so before putting his spin on the subject and hoping that no one notices that his
version differs from the original. Andrew is now denying that he knew that his fellow admins
were carders.
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See <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=137544318600> posted by Ragnar Jacob
Stephens (not Andrew Stephens)
<Quote>
This is priceless :-) Yesterday user:Nightmare posted info about STOPhaus Admin 'Sha' outing him as a carder and 'bp hosting' criminal. Following up to that post Spamdrew pretends not to know that the others in STOPhaus are all criminals and feigns being appalled at having carder criminals as co-Admins. As these posts will no doubt get deleted from STOPhaus I think we should archive here any DOXes that get posted on the admins :-) 08-01-2013, 02:24 AM Nightmare STOPhaus Member > Originally Posted by Maintiens le Droit > So Sha is an admin, who are the other admins now that "stophaus" has stepped > down? Maybe fix the member's list could be done. Sha is an admin yes. Real name Vitalii Boiko AKA Vitaliyi Boyiko from Ukraine, AKA bulletproof crime hosting company Xentime.com, AKA urdn.com.ua "Ukrainian Data Network" a host specializing only in hosting criminals, carders and bots. Sha is heavily involved in stolen credit cards business. Sha ran kurupt.ru, a site for carders swapping stolen credit cards. Some real quality criminals running this STOPhaus forum... 08-02-2013, 04:32 AM stophaus <--- Andrew Stephens The STOPhaus Movement Didn't Know That I never realized that Sha ran kurupt.ru. Isn't that a very illegal board of mostly Russians that only do carding for American cards and then sell them to criminals that end up harming only American economy? 08-02-2013, 08:22 AM Nightmare STOPhaus Member > Originally Posted by stophaus > I never realized that Sha ran kurupt.ru. Isn't that a very illegal board of > mostly Russians that only do carding for American cards and then sell them to > criminals that end up harming only American economy? You bet Andrew, that's exactly Sha's business - carding and "Bulletproof hosting" for carders, botmasters and the scum nobody else will host - same as Yuri Bogdanov (AKA 2x4.ru) and Sven Olaf Kamphuis (AKA cb3rob.net). These assholes make their money from 'bp' hosting the scum that rips off your mother, your father, your brothers and sisters. Everytime an American has their credit card stolen it ends up on sites like Sha's kurupt.ru where Sha and his friends milk it for everything the card owner had on it. Do you want me to post the evidence that Sha (AKA Vitalii Boiko AKA Vitaliyi Boyiko, a Ukrainian cybercriminal currently living in Paris France) operates kurupt.ru? I can post a whole DOX on Sha if you like, his home addresses in France and Ukraine, his domains and IPs (although Spamhaus did get all of Sha's urdn.com.ua IPs but they missed his IPs at resilans.se, maybe they should look better after they see the DOX and the rest of his domains). And just i case you think I'm a "NANAEITE" I am certainly not I'm just someone who hates the criminals who prey on the internet public: The carders, trojan assholes and botnet guys, and even more I hate the assholes who make their living hosting them: Vitalii Boiko, Yuri Bogdanov, Sven Olaf Kamphuis (yes Sven now quit cybercrime hosting but I'm sure only while he waits for his trial). BTW:: Yuri Bogdanov is another STOPhaus Admin I will expose with a DOX now. Nice company you kept here on STOPhaus huh?
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Friday, 21 June 2013
Andrew Jacob Stephens wants to smear...........
...........Spamhaus.
From <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=137179190900>
Path: ...!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Baten <dsrv.baten@gmail.com> Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: What is Andrew Stephens up to? Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 11:18:36 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 40 Message-ID: <jo8p3d$m7k$1@speranza.aioe.org> References: <cc0a10e9-ddfe-4176-82ba-ad2a417c9051@g38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <4vudncRsIPiu4DrSnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications> <jo7vjc$g1v$1@speranza.aioe.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: y0A1xEu8b6or7OHamp8k8A.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 On 5/7/2012 4:02 AM, nemesis wrote: > Skype Us at: kipnullz 19RoseMarry is still at it, but latest nym touting warz: Jason663 with a sale price $62.50
Can't remember if this one was ever posted - An oldie but a goody!: <http://www.pandahi.com/1007371070.html> Dns Expert - Sys Admin Gig Posting ID : #1007371070 Date Posted : 2012-01-31 Group : Computer Gigs I am in the need for a Systems Administrator in the local area that is a master of DNS records. I am looking for redundancy for some websites that are being attacked. I have gone through DoS mitigation services, dynamic DNS services, et al. I am not looking for upstream form some random service online because I am fighting with a DNSBL that has a bit of power to manipulate these services to shut down our websites. I do not wish to be dependent on services that will react to every complaint they get. Instead I am setting up a local machine and want to use it specifically to run cPanel DNS Only and will be using some VPS servers for the backup DNS. Kind of a round-robin load balancing setup more than a cluster DNS. If you know how to keep DNS redundant and can help...please call me at 513-277-0424 and we'll discuss payment and pricing. Please don't call if you are some Level 1 tech with littel to know real-world experience with DNSBL blacklists or advanced DNS. PS. This is not for email so no spam support please. We are hosting content to smear Spamhaus so if you know anything about Spamhaus then you know why DNS is an issue doing this and we do not want to break any laws in our efforts. We just need a solid redundant DNS system. Call Andrew at: 513-277-0424 or Skype me at eDataKing (it'll come up as Matt Williams)
Wednesday, 19 June 2013
The Rules of Spam
| The Rules Of Spam | |||
| Rule #0: Spam is theft. | |||
| Angel's Commentary: Spammers believe it's okay to steal a little bit from each person on the Internet at once. | |||
| Rule #1: Spammers lie. | |||
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Russel's Admonition: Always assume that there is a measurable chance that the entity you are dealing with is a spammer.
Lexical Contradiction: Spammers will redefine any term in order to disguise their abuse of Internet resources.
Sharp's Corollary: Spammers attempt to re-define "spamming" as that which they do not do. Finnell's Corollary: Spammers define "remove" as "validate." | |||
| Rule #2: If a spammer seems to be telling the truth, see Rule #1. | |||
| Crissman's Corollary: A spammer, when caught, blames his victims. Moore's Corollary: Spammers' lies are seldom questioned by mainstream media. | |||
| Rule #3: Spammers are stupid. | |||
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Krueger's Corollary: Spammer lies are really stupid.
Pickett's Commentary: Spammer lies are boring.
Russell's Corollary: Never underestimate the stupidity of spammers. Spinosa's Corollary: Spammers assume everybody is more stupid than themselves. Spammer's Standard of Discourse: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic. | |||
| Rule #4: The natural course of a spamming business is to go bankrupt. | |||
| Rules-Keeper Shaffer's Refrain: Spammers routinely prove the Rules of Spam are valid. | |||
|
It has been noted that the Rules of Spam are equally applicable to
spam-supporters, spam-tolerant ISPs, and various others who directly or
indirectly profit from spam.
The Rules also apply to those people (such as candidates for political
office, solicitors for "worthy" causes, propagators of religious
faiths, etc.) who deem their message to be of such overwhelming
importance that it utterly transcends the rights of others to have the
sole and uninhibited enjoyment of their personal property. <http://www.stophaus.org/rules_of_spam.html> <http://www.toastedspam.com/rules_of_spam.html> <http://www.spamsucks.us/rules_of_spam.html> | |||
Thursday, 30 May 2013
Andrew Jacob Stephens. The deja vous sequence
From :- <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=136991821300>
Posted on March 29, 2011.
From the hapless Andrew Brunner of 1999, to the insane Harry
Widdefield, to the clueless Bubba Catts, the narcissistic Tim Bolen,
and the many other buffoons I've forgotten, countless grunting
spammers have stumbled along down the same path as currently occupied
by the latest in the procession of IQ neanderthals, Andrew Stephens.
The path is well travelled and always has more or less this same
sequence of events. I'll label them below so that future spammers who
land in here thinking they're the first to take on 'the antis' can be
pointed to where they are in the "pass through NANAE and out through
the swinging doors, minus all your domains" sequence:
[A] Freshly terminated spammer finds NANAE and assumes NANAE is
Spamhaus. Spammer posts a declaration of his awesome greatness,
proclaims that the economy depends on his spam, announces that
anti-spam organizations are doomed and he's the revolutionary warrior
that will finish them.
[B] Spammer upset by all the laughter following his post, claims to
have a department of lawyers at his beck and call and that he's
working on a landmark lawsuit. Upset at the even louder laughter this
produces, Spammer claims he's reporting everyone to the FBI, FTC,
FCC, CIA and the Federation of Planets. Upset at the even louder
laughter this produces, Spammer claims to have an in with bigwigs on
Capitol Hill who will pass laws for him outlawing the use of
anti-spam filters.
[C] Spammer trying to figure out why everyone is falling about
laughing, begins to google for "Spamhaus" and finds demented
disinformation by other grunting spammers who've been down the exact
same path before him. Spammer triumphantly quotes the unhinged
mad-hatter propaganda, proclaiming "There's my proof!".
[D] Spammer upset at the ensuing howls of laughter, and pride hurt by
discovering his new-found friend is a certified fruit cake, sets up
yet-another "I-hate-Spamhaus" website and proudly announces the end
of Spamhaus will be brought about imminently by his "Anti-Spamhaus"
website which has now achieved 17 hits.
[E] Spammer googles a bit and discovers Linford lives on a houseboat
in the UK. Spammer discovers Linford owns an ISP, and the revelation
prompts a new effort to conjure up a conflict of interest. When the
logic escapes him, Spammer googles some more and discovers said ISP
is not in the UK... and neither is Linford... which prompts a new
effort to conjure up an image of tax evasion since people who don't
live in the UK should, spammer thinks, pay taxes where they don't
live, just to confound the taxman, instead of in the country where
they actually do reside. When that logic also fails, Spammer claims
it's not fair that Spamhaus can be wherever it wants and organize its
structure as it likes.
[F] When the spammer's efforts to tie felonious sins to Spamhaus fail,
spammer proclaims he is now working on a soopa-sekrit invention that
will bypass all spam filters, and/or claims to be about to release a
'blocklist of anti-spammers', and/or claims he's building his own
Intertube backbone so nobody can terminate him again.
[G] Having run the course of a few weeks which prompted only
hysterical laughter from the NANAE group, Spammer decides that NANAE
was not Spamhaus after-all and announces that although he is leaving
minus all the domains and IP space he came in with, he is leaving
with a moral victory anyway and that everyone will be very, very
sorry one day when he is elected President or he manages to file his
earth-shattering RICO lawsuit.
--
Steve Linford
The Spamhaus Project
http://www.spamhaus.org
Posted on March 29, 2011.
From the hapless Andrew Brunner of 1999, to the insane Harry
Widdefield, to the clueless Bubba Catts, the narcissistic Tim Bolen,
and the many other buffoons I've forgotten, countless grunting
spammers have stumbled along down the same path as currently occupied
by the latest in the procession of IQ neanderthals, Andrew Stephens.
The path is well travelled and always has more or less this same
sequence of events. I'll label them below so that future spammers who
land in here thinking they're the first to take on 'the antis' can be
pointed to where they are in the "pass through NANAE and out through
the swinging doors, minus all your domains" sequence:
[A] Freshly terminated spammer finds NANAE and assumes NANAE is
Spamhaus. Spammer posts a declaration of his awesome greatness,
proclaims that the economy depends on his spam, announces that
anti-spam organizations are doomed and he's the revolutionary warrior
that will finish them.
[B] Spammer upset by all the laughter following his post, claims to
have a department of lawyers at his beck and call and that he's
working on a landmark lawsuit. Upset at the even louder laughter this
produces, Spammer claims he's reporting everyone to the FBI, FTC,
FCC, CIA and the Federation of Planets. Upset at the even louder
laughter this produces, Spammer claims to have an in with bigwigs on
Capitol Hill who will pass laws for him outlawing the use of
anti-spam filters.
[C] Spammer trying to figure out why everyone is falling about
laughing, begins to google for "Spamhaus" and finds demented
disinformation by other grunting spammers who've been down the exact
same path before him. Spammer triumphantly quotes the unhinged
mad-hatter propaganda, proclaiming "There's my proof!".
[D] Spammer upset at the ensuing howls of laughter, and pride hurt by
discovering his new-found friend is a certified fruit cake, sets up
yet-another "I-hate-Spamhaus" website and proudly announces the end
of Spamhaus will be brought about imminently by his "Anti-Spamhaus"
website which has now achieved 17 hits.
[E] Spammer googles a bit and discovers Linford lives on a houseboat
in the UK. Spammer discovers Linford owns an ISP, and the revelation
prompts a new effort to conjure up a conflict of interest. When the
logic escapes him, Spammer googles some more and discovers said ISP
is not in the UK... and neither is Linford... which prompts a new
effort to conjure up an image of tax evasion since people who don't
live in the UK should, spammer thinks, pay taxes where they don't
live, just to confound the taxman, instead of in the country where
they actually do reside. When that logic also fails, Spammer claims
it's not fair that Spamhaus can be wherever it wants and organize its
structure as it likes.
[F] When the spammer's efforts to tie felonious sins to Spamhaus fail,
spammer proclaims he is now working on a soopa-sekrit invention that
will bypass all spam filters, and/or claims to be about to release a
'blocklist of anti-spammers', and/or claims he's building his own
Intertube backbone so nobody can terminate him again.
[G] Having run the course of a few weeks which prompted only
hysterical laughter from the NANAE group, Spammer decides that NANAE
was not Spamhaus after-all and announces that although he is leaving
minus all the domains and IP space he came in with, he is leaving
with a moral victory anyway and that everyone will be very, very
sorry one day when he is elected President or he manages to file his
earth-shattering RICO lawsuit.
--
Steve Linford
The Spamhaus Project
http://www.spamhaus.org
Andrew Stephhens has a hosting problem.
Andrew has a hosting problem. (Loooooooong)
He is posting as ragmarthemighty, and using the nym of John Smith
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Chat ID: 8215688. Question: I am reluctant to pay for your service if you a=
re simply going to shut it down over Spamhaus' false reports. I have US Off=
icials watching this hosting account to see if Spamhaus is truly influencin=
g censorship through their SBL listings and I need to know how Hostgator is=
going to react so I can notify my "watchdog" on things. If you are simply =
going to continue my hosting despite Spamhaus lies, then I'll pay the invoi=
ce right away and expand my hosting with you.
(3:34:03am)System:Customer has entered chat and is waiting for an agent.=20
(3:34:46am)System:Thank you for verifying your billing account [PRIVATE]!=
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(3:42:35am)Karen M.:Hello there! I will be happy to help you today.=20
(3:42:42am)Karen M.:Welcome to HostGator Live Chat Support. My name is Kare=
n and I am here to assist you with all of your billing and technical suppor=
t needs.=20
(3:43:02am)Karen M.:John can you tell me please if you have an open ticket =
on this issue?=20
(3:44:09am)John Smith:I have not. I am working closely with US Authorities =
to expose Spamhaus extortion tactics. The account I have with HG is an acco=
unt being monitored and I was notified that Spamhaus has listed the server =
on their SBL in the past hour.=20
(3:44:58am)John Smith:They are making the claim that a ROKSO listed "spamme=
r" is somehow related to The Church of Common Good, which is a false statem=
ent and is easy to prove by looking at the company filings http://search.su=
nbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail/EntityName/domnp-n130=
00001189-2d709c8e-ca68-4e89-a087-465f5c1cd0df/church%20of%20common%20good/P=
age1=20
(3:46:47am)John Smith:What is going on is that The Church of Common Good ha=
s been attacked by Spamhaus previously and the host terminated our hosting =
account based on Spamhaus libel. We expect that HG will do so as well and a=
re preparing for civil filings for violation of Constitutional Rights that =
protect The Church of Common Good as a "religious institution"=20
(3:47:15am)Karen M.:I understand.=20
(3:47:24am)John Smith:We will pay the invoice with HG and expand our servic=
es if HG will respect the Constitution of the United States=20
(3:47:55am)Karen M.:As long as the invoices are paid up to date and our ter=
ms of service are being met we will continue to host the site for you.=20
(3:48:02am)John Smith:but we do not want to pay it and then you turn around=
and terminate the service under some vague "violation of TOS" based on the=
fact that Spamhaus is attempting to censor a church=20
(3:48:24am)John Smith:Being listed on Spamhaus lists is often viewed as a T=
OS violation in itself=20
(3:48:37am)John Smith:can you please transfer me to your abuse staff?=20
(3:49:41am)John Smith:This chat log is being monitored as well to see how H=
G handles the issue=20
(3:50:02am)John Smith:I think it is important that all parties understand t=
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(3:51:31am)Karen M.:One moment please.=20
(3:51:37am)John Smith:yes=20
(3:53:48am)Karen M.:I apologize for the delay.=20
(3:54:04am)John Smith:not a problem, the outcome is the only thing of impor=
tance=20
(3:57:02am)Karen M.:I am explaining the situation to my supervisor. Please =
give me a few more minutes.=20
(3:57:53am)John Smith:yes absolutely. My contact will not be awake right no=
w or I would have her contact you as well, but I am sure they will be avail=
able during business hours today.=20
(3:58:26am)John Smith:My "contact" is a US Gov Official to be clear.=20
(3:59:50am)Karen M.:John can you show me where Spamhaus has your domain lis=
ted?=20
(4:00:01am)John Smith:http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL186133=20
(4:00:42am)John Smith:The claim is that Andrew Stephens is in control over =
the domains and his girlfriend is a Director for our Church=20
(4:01:12am)John Smith:Spamhaus has been attacking us because of their littl=
e squabble with Andrew and STOPhaus=20
(4:01:40am)John Smith:but that has nothing to do with us and we are tired o=
f it=20
(4:03:10am)Karen M.:Thank you. One moment please.=20
(4:03:13am)John Smith:yes=20
(4:03:58am)Karen M.:Due to the nature of the concern on your account, it is=
essential that I set up a ticket on your behalf right away regarding the i=
ssue at hand. This will open up a line of communication between you and our=
Security Administrators who can review your account directly to determine =
how it was compromised and assist you in preventing further exploitation an=
d recovering your site if possible. Once the ticket is created, I will esca=
late it as well for prompt review.=20
(4:04:16am)John Smith:there was no exploitation=20
(4:04:41am)John Smith:Spamhaus simply listed it because of the association =
between my family and Stephens.=20
(4:05:18am)Karen M.:With the site being listed on the spamhaus list this is=
a security issue and will need to be addressed by our security team. This =
is just a precaution to assist you in resolving this issue.=20
(4:05:21am)John Smith:You can submit a ticket, but I have someone monitorin=
g this particular chat with me and would like to get this resolved while my=
advocacy is with me.=20
(4:06:16am)John Smith:I understand completely, but if you are intending to =
terminate the site tonight, before any of this can take place, then I want =
to know so we can proceed in our next action.=20
(4:07:09am)John Smith:If you are intending to wait until after the Security=
Team has reviewed it, it will likely be tomorrow morning and at that time =
I can have someone contact you that has a bit more authority than Spamhaus.=
=20
(4:07:33am)Karen M.:At this time sir I am not seeing any reason to terminat=
e the hosting account. As you are complying with our tos there is no issue.=
=20
(4:08:08am)John Smith:In all honesty, this is a contract between Host Gator=
and The Church of Common Good, INC, which is a recognized religious instit=
ution in The State of Florida, so we should not even be concerned about our=
ability to progress.=20
(4:08:34am)John Smith:thank you for pointing out that there are no TOS viol=
ations.=20
(4:08:46am)John Smith:I will make the payment and get the invoice handled.=
=20
(4:09:09am)John Smith:If there is a future issue, I will expect a refund of=
any undue funds however.=20
(4:09:48am)John Smith:I know you have reached the end of your abilities in =
this situation and thank you for your patience in reviewing the issue=20
(4:10:14am)John Smith:Looking forward to speaking with your Security Staff =
in the morning and I'll look for the ticket email.=20
(4:10:36am)John Smith:Do you need anything further from me?=20
(4:11:07am)Karen M.:One moment please.=20
(4:11:11am)John Smith:yes=20
(4:14:15am)Karen M.:Your ticket number is=20
GIV-22165371 . You will also receive a copy of this in your email.=20
(4:14:56am)John Smith:I didn't get the number here=20
(4:15:12am)Karen M.:This is [PRIVATE].=20
(4:15:27am)John Smith:thank you very much. You have a wonderful morning=20
(4:15:31am)Karen M.:I apologize this sent in the chat on the second line.=
=20
(4:15:38am)Karen M.:You are very welcome. Do you have any other questions o=
r concerns I can assist you with?
++++++++++++End of transcript++++++++++++
Then a short while later, Andrew has some bad news :-
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
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<whohee-C917FA.11394528052013@news.supernews.com> <null-BA1C03.17103028052013@news.supernews.com>
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Subject: Re: Let's see how this plays out...
From: ragnarthemig...@gmail.com
Injection-Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 17:02:18 +0000
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On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:10:30 AM UTC-4, Luc Rossini [Spamhaus-CH] wrote:
> In article <whohee-C917FA.11394528052...@news.supernews.com>,
>
> Suspicious Sockus <who...@sockfactory.inv> wrote:
>
> > Let's see how this plays out... Spamdrew Stephens v. HostGator's TOS
> >
> > http://www.hostgator.com/tos
> >
> > "No organization or entity listed in ROKSO may be hosted on our
> > servers."
> >
> > Oh dear! Countdown to termination begins... 10... 9... 8... 7... 6...
>
>
>
> ...4, 3, 2, 1, Gone.
>
> --
>
> Luciano Rossini
> The Spamhaus Project
> http://www.spamhaus.org
And now let's see how long before the black vans pick you up you arrogant fucktard.
On the phone with the fuzz right now.
++++++++++++++++End+++++++++++++++++++++
Saturday, 16 March 2013
Andrew Stephens accuses Ms. Beverly of being a terrorist
Andrew, in his usual "charming" manner, decides to impersonate Ms. Ickes while posting from his stephensboy@gmail account. He's trying to get Richard Morton Scoville, the serial libeler, to fight his battles for him. What a coward!
From <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=136117992500>
On Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:13:26 PM UTC-5, BEI Design wrote: > Exactly as Susan was several months ago when she made a > > similar attempt, you have been hustled by a smooth-talking > > charlatan. I am really sorry your effort failed, but fail > > it did. Beverly Ickes, your opinion of me is based on a void. That means that you speak of ignorance. That means you CHOOSE to speak out of ignorance. That means you are IGNORANT!!! PS. Scoville, are you sure that Beverly Ickes of Oregon is not a Cougar Pedo? You may want to check on that, she is certainly in support of terrorism, so being a Pedo wouldn't be far fetched. Hmmm? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Left intact to archive on google. Andrew wrote: "...Beverly Ickes of Oregon [...] is certainly in support of terrorism, ..." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From <http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=136117992500>
On Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:13:26 PM UTC-5, BEI Design wrote: > Exactly as Susan was several months ago when she made a > > similar attempt, you have been hustled by a smooth-talking > > charlatan. I am really sorry your effort failed, but fail > > it did. Beverly Ickes, your opinion of me is based on a void. That means that you speak of ignorance. That means you CHOOSE to speak out of ignorance. That means you are IGNORANT!!! PS. Scoville, are you sure that Beverly Ickes of Oregon is not a Cougar Pedo? You may want to check on that, she is certainly in support of terrorism, so being a Pedo wouldn't be far fetched. Hmmm? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Left intact to archive on google. Andrew wrote: "...Beverly Ickes of Oregon [...] is certainly in support of terrorism, ..." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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