Andrew has a hosting problem. (Loooooooong)
He is posting as ragmarthemighty, and using the nym of John Smith
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Subject: Let's see how this plays out...
From: ragnarthemig...@gmail.com
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Chat ID: 8215688. Question: I am reluctant to pay for your service if you a=
re simply going to shut it down over Spamhaus' false reports. I have US Off=
icials watching this hosting account to see if Spamhaus is truly influencin=
g censorship through their SBL listings and I need to know how Hostgator is=
going to react so I can notify my "watchdog" on things. If you are simply =
going to continue my hosting despite Spamhaus lies, then I'll pay the invoi=
ce right away and expand my hosting with you.
(3:34:03am)System:Customer has entered chat and is waiting for an agent.=20
(3:34:46am)System:Thank you for verifying your billing account [PRIVATE]!=
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(3:42:35am)Karen M.:Hello there! I will be happy to help you today.=20
(3:42:42am)Karen M.:Welcome to HostGator Live Chat Support. My name is Kare=
n and I am here to assist you with all of your billing and technical suppor=
t needs.=20
(3:43:02am)Karen M.:John can you tell me please if you have an open ticket =
on this issue?=20
(3:44:09am)John Smith:I have not. I am working closely with US Authorities =
to expose Spamhaus extortion tactics. The account I have with HG is an acco=
unt being monitored and I was notified that Spamhaus has listed the server =
on their SBL in the past hour.=20
(3:44:58am)John Smith:They are making the claim that a ROKSO listed "spamme=
r" is somehow related to The Church of Common Good, which is a false statem=
ent and is easy to prove by looking at the company filings http://search.su=
nbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail/EntityName/domnp-n130=
00001189-2d709c8e-ca68-4e89-a087-465f5c1cd0df/church%20of%20common%20good/P=
age1=20
(3:46:47am)John Smith:What is going on is that The Church of Common Good ha=
s been attacked by Spamhaus previously and the host terminated our hosting =
account based on Spamhaus libel. We expect that HG will do so as well and a=
re preparing for civil filings for violation of Constitutional Rights that =
protect The Church of Common Good as a "religious institution"=20
(3:47:15am)Karen M.:I understand.=20
(3:47:24am)John Smith:We will pay the invoice with HG and expand our servic=
es if HG will respect the Constitution of the United States=20
(3:47:55am)Karen M.:As long as the invoices are paid up to date and our ter=
ms of service are being met we will continue to host the site for you.=20
(3:48:02am)John Smith:but we do not want to pay it and then you turn around=
and terminate the service under some vague "violation of TOS" based on the=
fact that Spamhaus is attempting to censor a church=20
(3:48:24am)John Smith:Being listed on Spamhaus lists is often viewed as a T=
OS violation in itself=20
(3:48:37am)John Smith:can you please transfer me to your abuse staff?=20
(3:49:41am)John Smith:This chat log is being monitored as well to see how H=
G handles the issue=20
(3:50:02am)John Smith:I think it is important that all parties understand t=
hat=20
(3:51:31am)Karen M.:One moment please.=20
(3:51:37am)John Smith:yes=20
(3:53:48am)Karen M.:I apologize for the delay.=20
(3:54:04am)John Smith:not a problem, the outcome is the only thing of impor=
tance=20
(3:57:02am)Karen M.:I am explaining the situation to my supervisor. Please =
give me a few more minutes.=20
(3:57:53am)John Smith:yes absolutely. My contact will not be awake right no=
w or I would have her contact you as well, but I am sure they will be avail=
able during business hours today.=20
(3:58:26am)John Smith:My "contact" is a US Gov Official to be clear.=20
(3:59:50am)Karen M.:John can you show me where Spamhaus has your domain lis=
ted?=20
(4:00:01am)John Smith:http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL186133=20
(4:00:42am)John Smith:The claim is that Andrew Stephens is in control over =
the domains and his girlfriend is a Director for our Church=20
(4:01:12am)John Smith:Spamhaus has been attacking us because of their littl=
e squabble with Andrew and STOPhaus=20
(4:01:40am)John Smith:but that has nothing to do with us and we are tired o=
f it=20
(4:03:10am)Karen M.:Thank you. One moment please.=20
(4:03:13am)John Smith:yes=20
(4:03:58am)Karen M.:Due to the nature of the concern on your account, it is=
essential that I set up a ticket on your behalf right away regarding the i=
ssue at hand. This will open up a line of communication between you and our=
Security Administrators who can review your account directly to determine =
how it was compromised and assist you in preventing further exploitation an=
d recovering your site if possible. Once the ticket is created, I will esca=
late it as well for prompt review.=20
(4:04:16am)John Smith:there was no exploitation=20
(4:04:41am)John Smith:Spamhaus simply listed it because of the association =
between my family and Stephens.=20
(4:05:18am)Karen M.:With the site being listed on the spamhaus list this is=
a security issue and will need to be addressed by our security team. This =
is just a precaution to assist you in resolving this issue.=20
(4:05:21am)John Smith:You can submit a ticket, but I have someone monitorin=
g this particular chat with me and would like to get this resolved while my=
advocacy is with me.=20
(4:06:16am)John Smith:I understand completely, but if you are intending to =
terminate the site tonight, before any of this can take place, then I want =
to know so we can proceed in our next action.=20
(4:07:09am)John Smith:If you are intending to wait until after the Security=
Team has reviewed it, it will likely be tomorrow morning and at that time =
I can have someone contact you that has a bit more authority than Spamhaus.=
=20
(4:07:33am)Karen M.:At this time sir I am not seeing any reason to terminat=
e the hosting account. As you are complying with our tos there is no issue.=
=20
(4:08:08am)John Smith:In all honesty, this is a contract between Host Gator=
and The Church of Common Good, INC, which is a recognized religious instit=
ution in The State of Florida, so we should not even be concerned about our=
ability to progress.=20
(4:08:34am)John Smith:thank you for pointing out that there are no TOS viol=
ations.=20
(4:08:46am)John Smith:I will make the payment and get the invoice handled.=
=20
(4:09:09am)John Smith:If there is a future issue, I will expect a refund of=
any undue funds however.=20
(4:09:48am)John Smith:I know you have reached the end of your abilities in =
this situation and thank you for your patience in reviewing the issue=20
(4:10:14am)John Smith:Looking forward to speaking with your Security Staff =
in the morning and I'll look for the ticket email.=20
(4:10:36am)John Smith:Do you need anything further from me?=20
(4:11:07am)Karen M.:One moment please.=20
(4:11:11am)John Smith:yes=20
(4:14:15am)Karen M.:Your ticket number is=20
GIV-22165371 . You will also receive a copy of this in your email.=20
(4:14:56am)John Smith:I didn't get the number here=20
(4:15:12am)Karen M.:This is [PRIVATE].=20
(4:15:27am)John Smith:thank you very much. You have a wonderful morning=20
(4:15:31am)Karen M.:I apologize this sent in the chat on the second line.=
=20
(4:15:38am)Karen M.:You are very welcome. Do you have any other questions o=
r concerns I can assist you with?
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Then a short while later, Andrew has some bad news :-
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Subject: Re: Let's see how this plays out...
From: ragnarthemig...@gmail.com
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On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:10:30 AM UTC-4, Luc Rossini [Spamhaus-CH] wrote:
> In article <whohee-C917FA.11394528052...@news.supernews.com>,
>
> Suspicious Sockus <who...@sockfactory.inv> wrote:
>
> > Let's see how this plays out... Spamdrew Stephens v. HostGator's TOS
> >
> > http://www.hostgator.com/tos
> >
> > "No organization or entity listed in ROKSO may be hosted on our
> > servers."
> >
> > Oh dear! Countdown to termination begins... 10... 9... 8... 7... 6...
>
>
>
> ...4, 3, 2, 1, Gone.
>
> --
>
> Luciano Rossini
> The Spamhaus Project
> http://www.spamhaus.org
And now let's see how long before the black vans pick you up you arrogant fucktard.
On the phone with the fuzz right now.
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